Saturday, April 20, 2013

Suddenly Hillary Is Not Odds On To Be Elected President In 2016 As Palin's Chances Brighten

Here is Tim Stanley writing at the prestigious Daily Telegraph (LINK)

"Barack Obama is a lame-duck president. Nobody listens to what he says anymore, nobody is interested in winning his approval and nobody much cares if he thinks they have “let the country down”. This is typical for a second-term president who has lost all their leverage because they’re no longer running for office and everybody is patiently waiting for the day when he quits the White House. But Obama's difficult personality has doubled the size of the challenge. Gloating in victory, adolescent in defeat – the Prez doesn’t make it easy to work with him. Why should conservative senators give him a legislative victory after he has spent four years painting them as knuckle-dragging rednecks who hate women and the poor?"

That comment was written after the failure of President Obama's gun control initiative. What more would Stanley have written about the "lame duck" situation of President Obama after the past horrendous week? 

Someone is "impatiently waiting for the day when he quits the White House" but with great trepidation too.

The vehemently Hillary Clinton supporting site "Hillary is 44" (Link) which got so strongly behind Clinton during the 2008 campaign and has not let up even for a moment-even during the height of "Obama-mania".

It will immediately become apparent to the visitor that President Obama is the villain of the piece and, as I read it, only the election of Hillary will reset the Democratic Party and America back to its centrist, co-operative course. That there is a massive sense of loss and righteous grievance at the site is obvious, and no detail as to how Hillary was robbed of her presidency and who did it is spared.

For Hillary is 44, there is the concern that a Clinton run will be sabotaged by the Obama inheritance, the country being in such a poor state presumably in 2016 that Hillary will be destroyed politically by Obama for a second time.

If Palin is not the GOP's nominee and Hillary does run on the centrist,healing and return to sanity platform suggested then she will be a formidable candidate. But even as formidable as she might be and with all the clear qualities she possesses when the nations mood turns ugly no candidate can go against that tide-witness Jimmy Carter in 1980 for example.

Hillary is 44 makes a cogent, and sharply incisive analysis of this potentially devastating problem in this extract below. and although we are on different sides of the fence I respect the argument and would look forwards to a battle of ideas. 

I disagree that in this battle the GOP nominee would need to be centrist-we have had Dole/McCain/Romney and no thanks for another. To be a real campaign of idea the GOP nominee versus Clinton should be Palin.

Hillary is 44 makes a real cri de coeur, and I genuinely would feel sorry for her if worst fears are realized and Obama brings down Hillary for the second time.


We are sure Hillary Clinton will make a decision on seeking the presidency in 2016 after the 2014 elections which will be a referendum on ObamaCares’ corruptions. After November 2014 it will be time to decide on 2016 for the tribes on all sides.
Over the years even some Hillary Clinton supporters from 2008 are too angry with the corruptions of Barack Obama to support Hillary Clinton now. When they look at Hillary, they see Barack. And it is a maddening sight. The old saying if you lie down with dogs you get up with fleas (if you lie down in sh#t don’t be surprised if you stink) is their righteous motto.
Some blame Hillary Clinton for Benghazi deaths, or protection of Barack Obama or blame Hillary Clinton for not openly challenging Barack Obama. Some are so disaffected no Democrat ever will get their votes.
For our part we believe we need a fully functioning Democratic Party and a fully functioning Republican Party that argue policy, programs, and present their ideologies honestly without the distractions of race-baiting or sexism and misogyny – and let the voters decide in honest elections.
We also believe that in 2016 neither Benghazi, the Clinton “ethical standards” Frum is still thumping after suffering defeat upon defeat, Bill’s speech dollars, Chelsea’s apartment, nor Hillary’s hairdo and speaking fees, will matter.
In 2016 the greatest threat to Hillary Clinton is once again Barack Obama – and his legacy of weakness and profligacy. Tie Hillary Clinton to Barack Obama and she loses.
Polls show Hillary Clinton 2016 could even win Texas. Exit polls in 2008 showed that Hillary Clinton would have done better than Barack Obama because she would have won white working class voters along with traditional Democratic base voters. Hillary Clinton 2016, the enemy of the DailyKooks, would mark the resurrection of the Democratic Party if she only gets the nomination. It would be a return to sanity.
What will matter in 2016 is the “center”. If Hillary stays in the center she wins. Hillary spent four years as far from Barack Obama as air travel made possible so she still can make it a convincing argument. If the Republican candidate seizes the center, he or she wins. In either case what matters is that the country win.


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